Now you see what I was talking about when I was talking about fighting back karmic in your dreams , specifically karmic relatives. Before I proceed, this is not a dig or a jab of no sort. I just simply want to say now you know what I was talking about and this is where your counteracting advice didn't pan out well in your own experience. When you ended up having the exact same experience the goal post is moved. When people try to redirect your talking points in regards to an experience and how to handle that experience, they will oppose the opinion and offer the different solution that they feel is better which is fine. But when they go through the exact same thing as the experience that you discussed that made you have this talking point to begin with, now they start to back pedal and ultimately end up doing the same thing that you did in your experience. Does that make sense? For instance it could be like in my situation I'll tell you this a couple months ago on my main p